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| Nicky Butt; can he play against newcatle | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 20 2006, 04:03 PM (544 Views) | |
| jersey lester | Apr 20 2006, 04:03 PM Post #1 |
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Geoff Horsfield
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dont think he can due to gentlemans agreement anyone know :( :blink: |
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| DuDuDugarry | Apr 20 2006, 04:04 PM Post #2 |
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Frank Worthington
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Loan players can't play against the club which holds their registration, league rules I'm afraid. |
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| bcfcBNZ | Apr 20 2006, 04:05 PM Post #3 |
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Martin Grainger
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I'm pretty sure that nowadays its an FA rule that players can't play against the team that holds their contract, so its irrelivant whether or not the two teams have a gentlemans agrement on it. :( Shame we have to lose him for a game just as he's putting in the performances. |
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| Mash | Apr 20 2006, 04:14 PM Post #4 |
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Paul Tait
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Chance for Kilkenny **thumbup |
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| DNK | Apr 20 2006, 04:15 PM Post #5 |
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Frank Worthington
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You'd think. Though for some reason, depsite playing really well whenever he has come on, he seems to have impressed everyone except Bruce. |
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| Mash | Apr 20 2006, 04:27 PM Post #6 |
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Paul Tait
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Cant agree more I think he could get it though Even though he said Muzzy could make it I would rather him make the bench and come on with 20 mins to go |
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| lukebluenose.o6 | Apr 20 2006, 05:50 PM Post #7 |
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Peter Enckelman
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i dont think butt can play oh well he ent very good anyway |
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| Steve | Apr 20 2006, 06:10 PM Post #8 |
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Malcom Page
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Are you mad? He was one of the best players last night! |
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| Kyle-KRO | Apr 20 2006, 06:44 PM Post #9 |
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Ian Handysides
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Its unfotunate due to Butts recent performances. But, Jarosik and DJ will be more than able to do the job. That is if Jarosik has recovered by then. |
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| Steve | Apr 20 2006, 07:26 PM Post #10 |
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Malcom Page
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You Sure? I just remembered... Didn't Jermaine Pennant play against Arsenal last season? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/e...rem/4525083.stm Birmingham: Maik Taylor, Melchiot (Tebily 78), Cunningham, Upson, Clapham, Pennant, Nafti, Carter (Morrison 62), Clemence, Pandiani (Martin Taylor 90), Heskey. Subs Not Used: Blake, Vaesen. Booked: Pandiani. Goals: Pandiani 80, Heskey 90. Arsenal: Lehmann, Toure, Senderos, Campbell, Cole, Fabregas (Flamini 75), Silva, Vieira, Ljungberg (Edu 68), Bergkamp, Van Persie (Aliadiere 68). Subs Not Used: Almunia, Eboue. Goals: Bergkamp 88. |
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| Willie | Apr 20 2006, 07:30 PM Post #11 |
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The difference is Pennat was released from his Arsenal contract, and effectivley played for blues on a non contract basis until the summer. So strictly speaking he was not on loan and therefore was able to face his formner club. |
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| 1LoveridgeC | Apr 20 2006, 07:32 PM Post #12 |
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Malcom Page
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Then why did we have to pay them £3M? |
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| DNK | Apr 20 2006, 07:36 PM Post #13 |
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Frank Worthington
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I don't think it's a ruling that they cannot play, I think its just a case that most clubs don't allow them to. Did he play them last time I cant remember? |
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| Steve | Apr 20 2006, 07:40 PM Post #14 |
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Malcom Page
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Nope : Newcastle: Given, Ramage, Taylor, Bramble, Babayaro, Solano (Clark 82), Parker, Emre, N'Zogbia (Ameobi 57), Shearer, Owen. Subs Not Used: Elliott, Harper, Faye. Booked: Taylor, Shearer, Emre. Goals: Emre 78. Birmingham: Maik Taylor, Cunningham, Martin Taylor, Upson, Clapham, Pennant, Izzet (Forssell 86), Kilkenny, Lazaridis (Pandiani 86), Jarosik, Heskey. Subs Not Used: Vaesen, Tebily, Painter. Booked: Lazaridis, Izzet. Although, I think he may have been injured. That looks like a weird match to me... I mean, Jarosik in strike? Upson actually playing?? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/e...rem/4387828.stm |
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| funky_bluenose | Apr 20 2006, 07:44 PM Post #15 |
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Martin Grainger
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I'm sure Premiership rules don't allow loan players from playing against their own club. Can't remember where i'd seen this (can only find it on some arsenal fan type site), heard it before amny time though. I'm sure its correct, why jiri didn;t play v chelski |
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| Steve | Apr 20 2006, 07:45 PM Post #16 |
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Malcom Page
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Am 99% sure that there was an agreement between Brum and Chelsea that Jarosik couldn't play against Chelsea. |
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| Bluenose Cobby | Apr 20 2006, 08:40 PM Post #17 |
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Jiri Jarosik
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See what you mean lads......especailly when the lad ran his little socks all game warming up ;) |
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| dr.nick | Apr 20 2006, 11:28 PM Post #18 |
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butt cant play , it's FA rules came in at the biging of last season. the penant thing always puzzeled me. if he was released then why did we pay them any money. i still cant figure it out. |
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| honkybluenose | Apr 21 2006, 01:27 AM Post #19 |
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Peter Enckelman
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From memory didn't we complete the transfer before the Arsenal game? |
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| krokid | Apr 21 2006, 01:42 AM Post #20 |
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If we can do a pennant deal, would you do it or not. Over the last lot of games since midelsborough really, he has played well, so should we get him permanantly. |
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| honkybluenose | Apr 21 2006, 02:00 AM Post #21 |
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Peter Enckelman
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He wouldnt sign and we couldnt afford him unless we were ddefinitely in the premiership next season |
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| krokid | Apr 21 2006, 05:27 AM Post #22 |
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KRO
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He has said he would like to stay at blues so :) . |
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| ZippyCat | Apr 21 2006, 07:55 AM Post #23 |
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Martin Taylor
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Premier league rules now stipulate that players cannot play against clubs from which they are being loaned from. The rule came into force the season after a certain Portsmouth/Newcastle match where (correct me if I’m wrong) Lua Lua scored against Newcastle whilst on loan at Portsmouth causing a bit of a commotion. |
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| krokid | Apr 21 2006, 07:56 AM Post #24 |
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KRO
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Pennant signed for us before the Arsenal game, and played, or had some agreement were he was a blues player. |
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| StAndrews4Eva | Apr 21 2006, 07:59 AM Post #25 |
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Shame Butt cant play - he was great against Welshburn. Jiri is very doubtful and Muzzy is a doubt as well. I think it might well be Kilkenny who takes over in the midfield. |
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